2017•˜The œreview of metaphysicsRequires access

Everyone Desires the Good: Socrates' Protreptic Theory of Desire

Agnes Callard

Open publisher page 13 citations

Abstract

IS FIRST PRINCIPLE of Socratic ethics? Socrates' oft-repeated contention that everyone desires good is a reasonable candidate. For consider what its competitors might be. Socrates also believes that one ought to devote one's life to care for soul, (1) that no one willingly does wrong, (2) that wisdom is only thing that is (really) good, ignorance only thing that is (really) evil, (3) that being wronged is better than wronging, (4) that justice is piety and temperance is wisdom, (5) that only good men have power to do evil, (6) and that a good man cannot be harmed. (7) Assuming that some of these Socratisms are grounded on others, desire thesis is likely to stand in a relatively foundational position. As Rachana Kamtekar observes: does seem more likely that doctrine that wrongdoing is unwilling should be a consequence of some deeper philosophical commitment about our orientation towards good [that is, desire thesis], rather than other way round. (8) The desire thesis may, then, be conceptually prior to Socrates' other views; it is also, I think, prior in another way. Socratic theory-building happens via conversation, and these conversations have practical as well as theoretical aims. Socrates is speaking not only with a view to discovering truth, but also for sake of redirecting both himself and his interlocutor onto a pursuit of virtue and Paraphrasing Plato, we can say that he aims to turn misdirected souls, his own included, toward light. (9) Consider a few examples of Socrates' characteristically protreptic conversational style. He concludes discussion of Laches with striking injunction: What I don't advise is that we allow ourselves to stay as we are. (10) He has managed to divert a conversation about educating children to topic of adults' need for moral improvement. Plato indicates that this was a habitual Socratic practice by having Nicias predict early on that conversation would turn inward. (11) Likewise, Socrates ends his discussion about akrasia with the in Protagoras by chiding them for not directing themselves to acquiring art of measurement that would be their salvation. He tames vaulting ambition of Alcibiades (you want your reputation and your influence to saturate all mankind (12)) into avowed commitment on part of Alcibiades to start to cultivate justice in myself right now. (13) In Euthydemus he both asks for and himself offers an of persuading young man that he ought to devote himself to wisdom and (14) His own exhibition concludes with claim that seems to be necessary that every man should prepare himself by every means to become as wise as possible. (15) For all his humility, Socrates seems to arrogate to himself a limitless power to transform any desire anyone approaches him with into impetus to inquire after virtue. It is as though Socrates takes himself to be able to say something like this to anyone he meets: If you like power (or pleasure or money or honor or health or beauty or fame or not fearing death or educating your children or ...) you'll love virtue and wisdom. Readers are often struck by Socrates' many pedagogic failures (Meno, Alcibiades, Anytus, and so on), but other side of that same coin is Socrates' remarkable willingness to take on hardest cases. One thing Plato may be trying to show us by filling his dialogues with bad interlocutors is that no one is too avaricious (Meno), cynical (Callicles), self-satisfied (Hippias), belligerent (Thrasymachus), scatterbrained (Hippocrates), sophistical (Euthydemus and Dionysiodorus), fixed in his ways (Protagoras, Gorgias, Cephalus), naive (Charmides, Lysis), power-hungry (Polus), conventional (Anytus), spoiled by flattery (Alcibiades), narcissistic (Agathon), or pompous (Euthyphro) for Socrates to deem him worthy of his pedagogic efforts. …

About this research paper

What this paper is about

IS FIRST PRINCIPLE of Socratic ethics? Socrates' oft-repeated contention that everyone desires good is a reasonable candidate. For consider what its competitors might be. Socrates also believes that one ought to devote one's life to care for soul, (1) that no one willingly does wrong, (2) that wisdom is only thing that is (really) good, ignorance only thing that is (really) evil, (3) that being wronged is better than wronging, (4) that justice is piety and temperance is wisdom, (5) that only good men have power to do evil, (6) and that a good man cannot be harmed. (7) Assuming that some of these Socratisms are grounded on others, desire thesis is likely to stand in a relatively foundational position. As Rachana Kamtekar observes: does seem more likely that doctrine that wrongdoing is unwilling should be a consequence of some deeper philosophical commitment about our orientation towards good [that is, desire thesis], rather than other way round. (8) The desire thesis may, then, be conceptually prior to Socrates' other views; it is also, I think, prior in another way. Socratic theory-building happens via conversation, and these conversations have practical as well as theoretical aims. Socrates is speaking not only with a view to discovering truth, but also for sake of redirecting both himself and his interlocutor onto a pursuit of virtue and Paraphrasing Plato, we can say that he aims to turn misdirected souls, his own included, toward light. (9) Consider a few examples of Socrates' characteristically protreptic conversational style. He concludes discussion of Laches with striking injunction: What I don't advise is that we allow ourselves to stay as we are. (10) He has managed to divert a conversation about educating children to topic of adults' need for moral improvement. Plato indicates that this was a habitual Socratic practice by having Nicias predict early on that conversation would turn inward. (11) Likewise, Socrates ends his discussion about akrasia with the in Protagoras by chiding them for not directing themselves to acquiring art of measurement that would be their salvation. He tames vaulting ambition of Alcibiades (you want your reputation and your influence to saturate all mankind (12)) into avowed commitment on part of Alcibiades to start to cultivate justice in myself right now. (13) In Euthydemus he both asks for and himself offers an of persuading young man that he ought to devote himself to wisdom and (14) His own exhibition concludes with claim that seems to be necessary that every man should prepare himself by every means to become as wise as possible. (15) For all his humility, Socrates seems to arrogate to himself a limitless power to transform any desire anyone approaches him with into impetus to inquire after virtue. It is as though Socrates takes himself to be able to say something like this to anyone he meets: If you like power (or pleasure or money or honor or health or beauty or fame or not fearing death or educating your children or ...) you'll love virtue and wisdom. Readers are often struck by Socrates' many pedagogic failures (Meno, Alcibiades, Anytus, and so on), but other side of that same coin is Socrates' remarkable willingness to take on hardest cases. One thing Plato may be trying to show us by filling his dialogues with bad interlocutors is that no one is too avaricious (Meno), cynical (Callicles), self-satisfied (Hippias), belligerent (Thrasymachus), scatterbrained (Hippocrates), sophistical (Euthydemus and Dionysiodorus), fixed in his ways (Protagoras, Gorgias, Cephalus), naive (Charmides, Lysis), power-hungry (Polus), conventional (Anytus), spoiled by flattery (Alcibiades), narcissistic (Agathon), or pompous (Euthyphro) for Socrates to deem him worthy of his pedagogic efforts. …

Why it matters

OpenAlex reports 13 citations for this work. Citation counts describe recorded attention and do not establish research quality.

Key contribution

A contribution statement is not available in the OpenAlex record.

Method / approach

Method details are not available in the OpenAlex metadata.

Main findings

Findings are not separately available in the OpenAlex metadata.

Limitations

Limitations are not available in the OpenAlex metadata.

Applications

Application details are not available in the OpenAlex metadata.

Available abstract

IS FIRST PRINCIPLE of Socratic ethics? Socrates' oft-repeated contention that everyone desires good is a reasonable candidate. For consider what its competitors might be. Socrates also believes that one ought to devote one's life to care for soul, (1) that no one willingly does wrong, (2) that wisdom is only thing that is (really) good, ignorance only thing that is (really) evil, (3) that being wronged is better than wronging, (4) that justice is piety and temperance is wisdom, (5) that only good men have power to do evil, (6) and that a good man cannot be harmed. (7) Assuming that some of these Socratisms are grounded on others, desire thesis is likely to stand in a relatively foundational position. As Rachana Kamtekar observes: does seem more likely that doctrine that wrongdoing is unwilling should be a consequence of some deeper philosophical commitment about our orientation towards good [that is, desire thesis], rather than other way round. (8) The desire thesis may, then, be conceptually prior to Socrates' other views; it is also, I think, prior in another way. Socratic theory-building happens via conversation, and these conversations have practical as well as theoretical aims. Socrates is speaking not only with a view to discovering truth, but also for sake of redirecting both himself and his interlocutor onto a pursuit of virtue and Paraphrasing Plato, we can say that he aims to turn misdirected souls, his own included, toward light. (9) Consider a few examples of Socrates' characteristically protreptic conversational style. He concludes discussion of Laches with striking injunction: What I don't advise is that we allow ourselves to stay as we are. (10) He has managed to divert a conversation about educating children to topic of adults' need for moral improvement. Plato indicates that this was a habitual Socratic practice by having Nicias predict early on that conversation would turn inward. (11) Likewise, Socrates ends his discussion about akrasia with the in Protagoras by chiding them for not directing themselves to acquiring art of measurement that would be their salvation. He tames vaulting ambition of Alcibiades (you want your reputation and your influence to saturate all mankind (12)) into avowed commitment on part of Alcibiades to start to cultivate justice in myself right now. (13) In Euthydemus he both asks for and himself offers an of persuading young man that he ought to devote himself to wisdom and (14) His own exhibition concludes with claim that seems to be necessary that every man should prepare himself by every means to become as wise as possible. (15) For all his humility, Socrates seems to arrogate to himself a limitless power to transform any desire anyone approaches him with into impetus to inquire after virtue. It is as though Socrates takes himself to be able to say something like this to anyone he meets: If you like power (or pleasure or money or honor or health or beauty or fame or not fearing death or educating your children or ...) you'll love virtue and wisdom. Readers are often struck by Socrates' many pedagogic failures (Meno, Alcibiades, Anytus, and so on), but other side of that same coin is Socrates' remarkable willingness to take on hardest cases. One thing Plato may be trying to show us by filling his dialogues with bad interlocutors is that no one is too avaricious (Meno), cynical (Callicles), self-satisfied (Hippias), belligerent (Thrasymachus), scatterbrained (Hippocrates), sophistical (Euthydemus and Dionysiodorus), fixed in his ways (Protagoras, Gorgias, Cephalus), naive (Charmides, Lysis), power-hungry (Polus), conventional (Anytus), spoiled by flattery (Alcibiades), narcissistic (Agathon), or pompous (Euthyphro) for Socrates to deem him worthy of his pedagogic efforts. …

Key concepts: SOCRATES, Socratic method, Epistemology, Philosophy, Virtue, Form of the Good, Soul, Conversation

Related papers

Back to paper searchBrowse research topicsOriginal source
Everyone Desires the Good: Socrates' Protreptic Theory of Desire — Research Paper | ScholarLens